Khadija von Zinnenburg Carroll spoke with Maori artist George Nuku on the occasion of his majestic solo exhibition spanning much of the Weltmuseum Wien. This is a short excerpt of a longer interview and ongoing conversations about the role of the return of ancestors in repatriation processes. In this section George, a senior artist from Aotearoa New Zealand now based in France speaks to the toi moko, preserved human heads of Māori with facial tattooing, and his spirited vision for their existence in the world.